I worked there briefly … they’re two of the worst human beings I’ve ever met. I hope they both fail at whatever they attempt … I doubt Kith and Kin sticks much longer.]]>
A lot of people might say things like “grow a pair” or “that’s just the industry live with it.” and to a certain extent that’s true. In the restaurant industry all types of behavior are tolerated that wouldn’t be accepted in other workplaces or the culture at large. Many people get into this business because they can’t abide by the constraints of corporate America. But none of that is an excuse bosses using their employees as human punching bags and giving their employees the choice between standing up for their dignity or keeping their jobs.]]>
Anyway, Dave is a great chef and so much of the menu I saw when i was up there was all him. I met Andrew once or twice, he seemed like an alright guy and a hard worker so I hope it works out well for him.
Dave was great to work for, and given the opportunity I would jump at the chance to work for him again and I know I’m not the only person that feels that way!
Wishing you all the best Chef! (and selfishly hoping you’ll come back down south)]]>
My only other note would be a call for civility. These comments have become a verbal sparring match gone bad. And they are making an already ugly situation uglier. There is no reason to add insult to injury by attacking anyone. It isn’t doing anyone any good.]]>
I noticed that earlier today someone accused me of using the alias ‘wreckless.’ (This post, containing the words, ‘AB’s girlfriend,’ is now either edited or removed). I’ll have you know that when I want to state my opinion, which I have not yet previously done, I WILL give you my full name- Sophie Nagelberg–not ‘AB’s girlfriend,’ or ’some other little whiney bitch who works at K&K.’ Make no mistake: I will proudly provide you with my name upon leaving a comment (perhaps everyone should do the same?).
Andrew has done nothing but speak highly of David Carrier. Andrew was put into an uncomfortable and awkward position when Carrier’s consultation gig was ended, as the two of them were friends. That decision was beyond Andrew’s control. It was a decision made by the Taleb brothers, who also held Carrier in a high regard, and still do. The Taleb brothers had to make a business decision and that is all there is to it. Carrier was not fulfilling the tasks the Taleb brothers asked, and they had no option but to let him go.
For those of you who no longer wish to support K&K, then don’t. Andrew will continue to do what he does best, and that is work in the kitchen. K&K wishes to move forward, so let them.
I’m aware that my opinion will most likely be discredited as ‘AB’s girlfriend,’ but perhaps you should think of me as not only someone who works at K&K, but someone who knows all of the staff (well), knows and respects David Carrier, knows the character of the Taleb brothers, and finally,can tell you first hand about the backbone Andrew Brochu has. He is the most honest, integral, and hard working person I know. Yes, Helene, he is young, however, his abilities in the kitchen and in the restaurant industry far exceed his age.]]>
A chef is no one without his team. Let’s not forget that Carrier hired Brochu as his right-hand man. So, for all of you who believe in Carrier, it seems natural that you should believe in Brochu, as well. Additionally, if I’m not mistaken, the plan was for Carrier to head-up the Andersonville restaurant once it opened, leaving Brochu in charge of the kitchen at Kith and Kin. Believe me, I’m as bummed as all of you about Carrier being out, but why take it out on Brochu? Why assume he’s not capable of running a kitchen?
Sure, Carrier was the face of Kith and Kin, and not Brochu. Wanna know why? Well, one of them had to be in the kitchen. Evidently, Brochu’s (and team) competence afforded Carrier the leisure of mingling with guests.
Dear bitter ex-employee and/or Brochu’s dear friend and/or Brochu’s girlfriend, Wreckless: your voice would have been better heard had you spoken well about Brochu, and not slighted Carrier.
To the whiny line cooks: Grow a sack! And/or go work for some passion-less mediocre exec chef — he/she most likely won’t yell at you!
FYI: I have no personal relationship with David, Andrew, Moe, Ashe, or any other team member.]]>
Second, would David spend all day at the restaurant? Yes, but what was he actually doing is the question. If watching Glee and doing anything but cooking are considered work, then by all means he was the busiest man in the restaurant.
David doesn’t occasionally yell. He always does. Due to his size he tries to bully people and it works to a degree… and that degree is until that staff member quits. Hence why the last time I heard there are only 4 cooks in the kitchen currently on staff. Watching the mostly male staff constantly being called ” cum guzzling faggots” is far from professional and borderline criminal.
I have worked with people who have worked with him before at Trio and the French Laundry, maybe you should find out who they are and ask them about David’s work ethic. Or better yet ask them what he actually did while he was there.
David Carrier behaves like a spoiled brat. The fact that he reached out to you to give this fictitious article only proves it even further. He got fired because the restaurant was not making money because of the decisions he made. He took all the glory when positive press was released, but when things went wrong he wanted to accept none of the blame. He lacked accountability. The fact that you ran with this article without fact checking let’s me know that you’ll learn what accountability and responsible journalism both mean.]]>
Like GourmetRambler, I will find it nearly impossible to return to a place that treated you so shabbily. In fact I doubt I will be able to return at all, and that is a shame.]]>
I disagree with one of the previous comments. Andrew Brochu is very capable, well qualified and hard working. Given the chance, he will run K&K well. What I am questioning is whether he will be given the freedom to do so. It seems quite possible the Talebs will dictate the way the kitchen is run. And who is to say that Andrew wouldn’t fall their next victim? These people cannot be trusted, there really is no job security. What would stop them from firing Andrew if he takes a step that’s not in synch with them? Nothing. And that is disturbing.
I used to call Chef Carrier “the Captain of the Ship”. He was always there, making sure things ran smoothly. He took a personal interest in everyone and everything. For any ship the loss of its Captain is crippling. K&K will not be the exception.
I feel for Chef Brochu. The fallout from this toxic situation is likely to stick around for a while. And it is difficult to deal with baggage like that. I have faith that Andrew will persevere, but the position he has been put in is hardly enviable. Good luck, Chef Brochu. Hope that everything works out for the best.
Now, the dilemma I am faced with, as a conscientious diner… I would love to support Chef Brochu and the team at K&K, but every fiber of my being is against supporting an establishment owened by the Talebs. What they did to Chef Carrier, and the manner in which they did it, is utterly reprehensible. That, however, is My dilemma to deal with.
Good luck, David. I will certainly follow you wherever you go. They don’t call me Gourmet Rambler for nothing. I will forever remain a fan of your vision, of your food, and of you.]]>
David had been working tirelessly in the kitchen AND the front of the house and is the sole person responsible for the success of that restaurant. It was his vision and execution that got people in the door, and kept them coming back. It certainly wasn’t a front-of-house person who rarely showed up, or when he did sat at the bar and ordered up food. The Talebs have made a terrible, terrible mistake, and I’m sad to say I have now lost my favorite place to go in the city.
My only hope is that David finds another home in Chicago for his huge talent, and that his family are able to join him here soon. If the city loses him altogether, I know who to blame.]]>